Showing posts with label messianics. Show all posts
Showing posts with label messianics. Show all posts
Monday, April 6, 2020
Hayovel Ministry's Missionary Hagadah (audio visual presentation)
The notorious "Hayovel Ministry" has a new "Christian" Pesach Hagadah. Shame on all the Jews in Israel, who are associated with this pernicious missionary organization. When this Corona virus madness is finished G-d willing, there will be a tremendous need for Jewish employment in Eretz Yisrael. It's bad enough that Jewish communities and vintners sold out the Jewish people for the free labor of evangelical missionaries. When this quarantine is finished, with G-d's help these Jews will learn from the lesson of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and do teshuva (repentance), cease all of their associations with missionary organizations such as "Hayovel", and start employing Jews to tend their vineyards. With G-d's help this will be an opportunity for the Jewish people to learn and grow from this latest challenge.
Sunday, October 29, 2017
No Place For Slander (AUDIO)
Most of these misguided Jews either naively believe that these people and groups are harmless, or have the arrogance to believe that they can play a dangerous game of "strange bedfellows". Some hasbara types are indeed corrupt, and more than a few are corrupt in terms of their warped Torah perspective. One often hears the refrain of "good intentions". Good intentions? Good intentions have destroyed better men than these.
Our detractors glibly hurl the charge of "slander/libel" at my colleagues and I, whenever we tackle these troubling issues. They avoid addressing our questions or the evidence we produce. Their usage of the term renders them guilty of the crime themselves, since none of us are involved in any form of slander. Nor are we attacking "good Jews", which is a clever way to evade responsibility for one's actions. We are simply calling out public Jewish personalities for what we believe are dangerous alliances with the enemies of Am Yisrael. No personal animus fuels us, nor is there any personal gain from addressing these upsetting issues. On the contrary. Speaking unpleasant truths usually comes at a cost.
I regularly use the term "enemies" to paint evangelicals, precisely how a proper Jewish approach would deem any group harmful to us. Evangelicals are indeed our enemies, and no amount of "Israeli" support can detract from their insidious spiritual warfare on our sacred Torah. Stating truth and exposing the irresponsible public behavior of public people does not constitute slander/libel.
Once upon a time, religious Jews recognized that Esau's kiss was the kiss of spiritual death. Yet today, we have "religious" Jews meeting and greeting, and befriending and breaking bread with these vipers. Teaching Torah to missionaries. Giving tours to messianic congregations in Israel. Giving them a foothold in Jewish communities on Jewish land that should be used to house other Jews.
I choose to not remain silent, regardless of the threats of bullies. If I am engaged in slander or libel, the logical thing to do would be to hire a lawyer and serve me my papers. If nothing else, have the attorney clarify the precise nature of the supposed libel/slander, and if I find your arguments convincing or I recognize errors on my part, I will publicly apologize and make the appropriate corrections. I have never been afraid to apologize if I am wrong. But just to hurl the terms around doesn't make it so, even if one hopes that something will stick.
Contrary to the lie that many Jews espouse, evangelicals aren't our "brothers" or righteous gentiles. They have the same agenda that their forebears had hundreds of years ago. But they are wiser today and they've discovered clever ways to earn the confidence of Jews. Consider the fact that "Hayovel", a veritable missionary organization, is well-entrenched in Har Bracha today, with the blessings of the town's rabbi. Would such a thing have even been possible twenty years ago? Jews argue that they are friends, and yet they arrogantly hawk messianic bibles on their website. After Tommy Waller's supposed and much heralded recent "repentance"!
Jews can ignore this perversion as long as they wish. At the end of the day, chareidi, daati leumi, and chiloni will all pay the price. One day soon, we will all suffer the consequence of these dangerous alliances.
No Place For Slander (AUDIO)
Most of these misguided Jews either naively believe that these people and groups are harmless, or have the arrogance to believe that they can play a dangerous game of "strange bedfellows". Some hasbara types are indeed corrupt, and more than a few are corrupt in terms of their warped Torah perspective. One often hears the refrain of "good intentions". Good intentions? Good intentions have destroyed better men than these.
Our detractors glibly hurl the charge of "slander/libel" at my colleagues and I, whenever we tackle these troubling issues. They avoid addressing our questions or the evidence we produce. Their usage of the term renders them guilty of the crime themselves, since none of us are involved in any form of slander. Nor are we attacking "good Jews", which is a clever way to evade responsibility for one's actions. We are simply calling out public Jewish personalities for what we believe are dangerous alliances with the enemies of Am Yisrael. No personal animus fuels us, nor is there any personal gain from addressing these upsetting issues. On the contrary. Speaking unpleasant truths usually comes at a cost.
I regularly use the term "enemies" to paint evangelicals, precisely how a proper Jewish approach would deem any group harmful to us. Evangelicals are indeed our enemies, and no amount of "Israeli" support can detract from their insidious spiritual warfare on our sacred Torah. Stating truth and exposing the irresponsible public behavior of public people does not constitute slander/libel.
Once upon a time, religious Jews recognized that Esau's kiss was the kiss of spiritual death. Yet today, we have "religious" Jews meeting and greeting, and befriending and breaking bread with these vipers. Teaching Torah to missionaries. Giving tours to messianic congregations in Israel. Giving them a foothold in Jewish communities on Jewish land that should be used to house other Jews.
I choose to not remain silent, regardless of the threats of bullies. If I am engaged in slander or libel, the logical thing to do would be to hire a lawyer and serve me my papers. If nothing else, have the attorney clarify the precise nature of the supposed libel/slander, and if I find your arguments convincing or I recognize errors on my part, I will publicly apologize and make the appropriate corrections. I have never been afraid to apologize if I am wrong. But just to hurl the terms around doesn't make it so, even if one hopes that something will stick.
Contrary to the lie that many Jews espouse, evangelicals aren't our "brothers" or righteous gentiles. They have the same agenda that their forebears had hundreds of years ago. But they are wiser today and they've discovered clever ways to earn the confidence of Jews. Consider the fact that "Hayovel", a veritable missionary organization, is well-entrenched in Har Bracha today, with the blessings of the town's rabbi. Would such a thing have even been possible twenty years ago? Jews argue that they are friends, and yet they arrogantly hawk messianic bibles on their website. After Tommy Waller's supposed and much heralded recent "repentance"!
Jews can ignore this perversion as long as they wish. At the end of the day, chareidi, daati leumi, and chiloni will all pay the price. One day soon, we will all suffer the consequence of these dangerous alliances.
Wednesday, June 28, 2017
Jeremy Gimpel and Evangelical "Lost Tribes"
In this 2009 clip from episode #31 of "Tuesday Night Live in Jerusalem" starring Ari Abramowitz and Jeremy Gimpel, friends of Hayovel, Gimpel interviews a random christian tour guide, and asks him if he thinks he is a Jewish soul lost in a gentile body.
Despite the christian's answer to the contrary, Gimpel elaborates on why he thinks there is a Jewish soul inside the christian tour guide's body, and implies that he and others like him are part of the return of Efrayim and the northern tribes. The relevant portion begins at 1:20.
Excerpt from interview:
"christian tour guide: I'm here leading tours of christians throughout the land of Israel.
Jeremy Gimpel: Are you christian?
christian tour guide: I am.
Jeremy Gimpel: Do you think that you are a Jewish soul lost in a gentile body?
christian tour guide: I, I, I, no (shaking head no).
Jeremy Gimpel: In the book of Hoshea it says that Efrayim, who is the northern tribes of Israel, will be lost amongst the nations. They'll look like non-Jews. And then all of a sudden, totally irrationally, they'll feel this pull to Jewish roots, to Judaism, to Israel. Although most of America, Barack Obama, they don't like Israel they don't like the Jews, most non-Jews don't like Jews. But there's this select group of non-Jew that, all of a sudden, they can't explain why, but they have this attraction to Judaism. They have an attraction to Israel. And I'm wondering if, possibly, inside your gentile body there is in fact a Jewish soul that is yearning to come home, because Efrayim and all the northern tribes not only will return, like, to their Jewish roots, they'll actually return to Israel, and we will all together pray to the God of Israel, the Heavenly Father, and I wanna know what you think of that."
Tomer Devorah posted a clip earlier this year of Gimpel in Yehuda speaking with a group of messianic christians from "Beit Tehilah," where he describes his disturbing vision for the center of study and prayer for Jews and christians that he is building in Yehuda.
"Jeremy Gimpel: This is the first center to be established as a center of study, of prayer, for Jews and 'the righteous among the nations' in the land of Israel. There is no such thing like this yet.
And so those side buildings, that's gonna be small little hotel rooms or apartments for small families, that they can come instead of staying at a hotel. You feel like you're a tourist when you're at a hotel. You come here and you live in your own little apartment. On the land.
And you wake up and there'll be prayer services here in the morning, and then a morning class. And then we'll go out and work in the fields. We'll be eating together, working together, learning together, praying together, living together.
And so, there'll be differences, of course there'll be differences. You get ten Jews in a room and there's already forty opinions. Add a bunch of non-Jews in the room, now there'll be a hundred different opinions.
But, what we have shifted away from in our belief, how do we build up Mashiach's team? Now, we may even have a dispute on who Mashiach is, 'cause the Jews don't really know yet, we're like waiting for him to appear.
And that'll be the big question when he comes, is this your first time, or is this your second time? But you know what, if he's smart, he won't ever answer. Why does one of us have to be wrong and one of us have to be right?
Maybe God's ways are beyond our ways? Maybe His thoughts are beyond our thoughts, and as we're trying to convince each other on the issue that divides us, let's put that aside for just a minute, and now let's leave theology alone.
The Messianic movement has an ideology. What's an ideology? It's not a theology, it's what we believe in, it's what we work towards, it's what we want to train our children towards, and the language that we've come up with is Biblical Zionist."
Despite the christian's answer to the contrary, Gimpel elaborates on why he thinks there is a Jewish soul inside the christian tour guide's body, and implies that he and others like him are part of the return of Efrayim and the northern tribes. The relevant portion begins at 1:20.
Excerpt from interview:
"christian tour guide: I'm here leading tours of christians throughout the land of Israel.
Jeremy Gimpel: Are you christian?
christian tour guide: I am.
Jeremy Gimpel: Do you think that you are a Jewish soul lost in a gentile body?
christian tour guide: I, I, I, no (shaking head no).
Jeremy Gimpel: In the book of Hoshea it says that Efrayim, who is the northern tribes of Israel, will be lost amongst the nations. They'll look like non-Jews. And then all of a sudden, totally irrationally, they'll feel this pull to Jewish roots, to Judaism, to Israel. Although most of America, Barack Obama, they don't like Israel they don't like the Jews, most non-Jews don't like Jews. But there's this select group of non-Jew that, all of a sudden, they can't explain why, but they have this attraction to Judaism. They have an attraction to Israel. And I'm wondering if, possibly, inside your gentile body there is in fact a Jewish soul that is yearning to come home, because Efrayim and all the northern tribes not only will return, like, to their Jewish roots, they'll actually return to Israel, and we will all together pray to the God of Israel, the Heavenly Father, and I wanna know what you think of that."
Tomer Devorah posted a clip earlier this year of Gimpel in Yehuda speaking with a group of messianic christians from "Beit Tehilah," where he describes his disturbing vision for the center of study and prayer for Jews and christians that he is building in Yehuda.
"Jeremy Gimpel: This is the first center to be established as a center of study, of prayer, for Jews and 'the righteous among the nations' in the land of Israel. There is no such thing like this yet.
And so those side buildings, that's gonna be small little hotel rooms or apartments for small families, that they can come instead of staying at a hotel. You feel like you're a tourist when you're at a hotel. You come here and you live in your own little apartment. On the land.
And you wake up and there'll be prayer services here in the morning, and then a morning class. And then we'll go out and work in the fields. We'll be eating together, working together, learning together, praying together, living together.
And so, there'll be differences, of course there'll be differences. You get ten Jews in a room and there's already forty opinions. Add a bunch of non-Jews in the room, now there'll be a hundred different opinions.
But, what we have shifted away from in our belief, how do we build up Mashiach's team? Now, we may even have a dispute on who Mashiach is, 'cause the Jews don't really know yet, we're like waiting for him to appear.
And that'll be the big question when he comes, is this your first time, or is this your second time? But you know what, if he's smart, he won't ever answer. Why does one of us have to be wrong and one of us have to be right?
Maybe God's ways are beyond our ways? Maybe His thoughts are beyond our thoughts, and as we're trying to convince each other on the issue that divides us, let's put that aside for just a minute, and now let's leave theology alone.
The Messianic movement has an ideology. What's an ideology? It's not a theology, it's what we believe in, it's what we work towards, it's what we want to train our children towards, and the language that we've come up with is Biblical Zionist."
Jeremy Gimpel and Evangelical "Lost Tribes"
In this 2009 clip from episode #31 of "Tuesday Night Live in Jerusalem" starring Ari Abramowitz and Jeremy Gimpel, friends of Hayovel, Gimpel interviews a random christian tour guide, and asks him if he thinks he is a Jewish soul lost in a gentile body.
Despite the christian's answer to the contrary, Gimpel elaborates on why he thinks there is a Jewish soul inside the christian tour guide's body, and implies that he and others like him are part of the return of Efrayim and the northern tribes. The relevant portion begins at 1:20.
Excerpt from interview:
"christian tour guide: I'm here leading tours of christians throughout the land of Israel.
Jeremy Gimpel: Are you christian?
christian tour guide: I am.
Jeremy Gimpel: Do you think that you are a Jewish soul lost in a gentile body?
christian tour guide: I, I, I, no (shaking head no).
Jeremy Gimpel: In the book of Hoshea it says that Efrayim, who is the northern tribes of Israel, will be lost amongst the nations. They'll look like non-Jews. And then all of a sudden, totally irrationally, they'll feel this pull to Jewish roots, to Judaism, to Israel. Although most of America, Barack Obama, they don't like Israel they don't like the Jews, most non-Jews don't like Jews. But there's this select group of non-Jew that, all of a sudden, they can't explain why, but they have this attraction to Judaism. They have an attraction to Israel. And I'm wondering if, possibly, inside your gentile body there is in fact a Jewish soul that is yearning to come home, because Efrayim and all the northern tribes not only will return, like, to their Jewish roots, they'll actually return to Israel, and we will all together pray to the God of Israel, the Heavenly Father, and I wanna know what you think of that."
Tomer Devorah posted a clip earlier this year of Gimpel in Yehuda speaking with a group of messianic christians from "Beit Tehilah," where he describes his disturbing vision for the center of study and prayer for Jews and christians that he is building in Yehuda.
"Jeremy Gimpel: This is the first center to be established as a center of study, of prayer, for Jews and 'the righteous among the nations' in the land of Israel. There is no such thing like this yet.
And so those side buildings, that's gonna be small little hotel rooms or apartments for small families, that they can come instead of staying at a hotel. You feel like you're a tourist when you're at a hotel. You come here and you live in your own little apartment. On the land.
And you wake up and there'll be prayer services here in the morning, and then a morning class. And then we'll go out and work in the fields. We'll be eating together, working together, learning together, praying together, living together.
And so, there'll be differences, of course there'll be differences. You get ten Jews in a room and there's already forty opinions. Add a bunch of non-Jews in the room, now there'll be a hundred different opinions.
But, what we have shifted away from in our belief, how do we build up Mashiach's team? Now, we may even have a dispute on who Mashiach is, 'cause the Jews don't really know yet, we're like waiting for him to appear.
And that'll be the big question when he comes, is this your first time, or is this your second time? But you know what, if he's smart, he won't ever answer. Why does one of us have to be wrong and one of us have to be right?
Maybe God's ways are beyond our ways? Maybe His thoughts are beyond our thoughts, and as we're trying to convince each other on the issue that divides us, let's put that aside for just a minute, and now let's leave theology alone.
The Messianic movement has an ideology. What's an ideology? It's not a theology, it's what we believe in, it's what we work towards, it's what we want to train our children towards, and the language that we've come up with is Biblical Zionist."
Despite the christian's answer to the contrary, Gimpel elaborates on why he thinks there is a Jewish soul inside the christian tour guide's body, and implies that he and others like him are part of the return of Efrayim and the northern tribes. The relevant portion begins at 1:20.
Excerpt from interview:
"christian tour guide: I'm here leading tours of christians throughout the land of Israel.
Jeremy Gimpel: Are you christian?
christian tour guide: I am.
Jeremy Gimpel: Do you think that you are a Jewish soul lost in a gentile body?
christian tour guide: I, I, I, no (shaking head no).
Jeremy Gimpel: In the book of Hoshea it says that Efrayim, who is the northern tribes of Israel, will be lost amongst the nations. They'll look like non-Jews. And then all of a sudden, totally irrationally, they'll feel this pull to Jewish roots, to Judaism, to Israel. Although most of America, Barack Obama, they don't like Israel they don't like the Jews, most non-Jews don't like Jews. But there's this select group of non-Jew that, all of a sudden, they can't explain why, but they have this attraction to Judaism. They have an attraction to Israel. And I'm wondering if, possibly, inside your gentile body there is in fact a Jewish soul that is yearning to come home, because Efrayim and all the northern tribes not only will return, like, to their Jewish roots, they'll actually return to Israel, and we will all together pray to the God of Israel, the Heavenly Father, and I wanna know what you think of that."
Tomer Devorah posted a clip earlier this year of Gimpel in Yehuda speaking with a group of messianic christians from "Beit Tehilah," where he describes his disturbing vision for the center of study and prayer for Jews and christians that he is building in Yehuda.
"Jeremy Gimpel: This is the first center to be established as a center of study, of prayer, for Jews and 'the righteous among the nations' in the land of Israel. There is no such thing like this yet.
And so those side buildings, that's gonna be small little hotel rooms or apartments for small families, that they can come instead of staying at a hotel. You feel like you're a tourist when you're at a hotel. You come here and you live in your own little apartment. On the land.
And you wake up and there'll be prayer services here in the morning, and then a morning class. And then we'll go out and work in the fields. We'll be eating together, working together, learning together, praying together, living together.
And so, there'll be differences, of course there'll be differences. You get ten Jews in a room and there's already forty opinions. Add a bunch of non-Jews in the room, now there'll be a hundred different opinions.
But, what we have shifted away from in our belief, how do we build up Mashiach's team? Now, we may even have a dispute on who Mashiach is, 'cause the Jews don't really know yet, we're like waiting for him to appear.
And that'll be the big question when he comes, is this your first time, or is this your second time? But you know what, if he's smart, he won't ever answer. Why does one of us have to be wrong and one of us have to be right?
Maybe God's ways are beyond our ways? Maybe His thoughts are beyond our thoughts, and as we're trying to convince each other on the issue that divides us, let's put that aside for just a minute, and now let's leave theology alone.
The Messianic movement has an ideology. What's an ideology? It's not a theology, it's what we believe in, it's what we work towards, it's what we want to train our children towards, and the language that we've come up with is Biblical Zionist."
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